LTD Podcast E37: Bishop T.D. Jakes and Pastor Carl Lentz on Racism in America (Part 2)

LTD Podcast E37: Bishop T.D. Jakes and Pastor Carl Lentz on Racism in America (Part 2)

Bishop T.D. Jakes and Pastor Carl Lentz continue their discussion on racism in America. 

“Our silence is abuse.”  

Speaking to Lentz about the problem of systemic racism in the US, Jakes – the bishop of The Potter’s House, a non-denominational American megachurch, says that this is not a new problem. It’s not the result of the pandemic. It’s a result of a spiritual pandemic and a cultural pandemic that has existed in America from the very foundations. We’ve never dealt with it, we don’t talk about it. It’s taboo to discuss it.

Discussing the brutality that many African-Americans experience at the hands of law enforcement, Jakes also put in clear terms what he wishes to see change. One of these much-needed changes is for police officers to not allow their fraternity to other police officers to be stronger than their commitment to God. They can not have such an allegiance to the other officers that they willingly betray God to protect them. Additionally, the famous preacher added that he is not asking for black people to be immune from arrest, in as much as no person, regardless of race, should be treated as above the law. 

“And if God could love me and God lives in you, then how can you say that He dwells in you and you could stand there and watch a grown man cry for his mama?”

According to Bishop Jakes, we need to speak up for God’s sake. Do whatever we can do with whatever we can do. There has to be a shift where people start holding themselves accountable. We can not have churches that are one dimensional, and we can not have pastors that are one dimensional, and we can not have parties that are one dimensional. And most importantly, we need to reject that notion of a world that excludes people that Jesus died for.  

“And if we are the children of God, then we ought to love who God loves. We ought to care when God cares and we ought to fight when God fights for each other.” 

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